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Re: [midgard-dev] What do you expect from the LTS version?

Henri Bergius — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:43:31 +0000

Hi,

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Piotr Pokora piotrek.pokora@gmail.com wrote:

How long should we keep backward compatibility there? I do not mean Ragnaroek compatibility. I mean its own evolution.

There are lots of big deployments in 1.8 now. They all can easily upgrade to Ragnaroek (provided they're running PHP4), but going to Vinland would be a big step as all configs and templates need to be converted or rewritten, and most likely many components will be missing still from new MidCOM when Vinland is released.

Therefore we will need to support Ragnaroek for at least some 4 years. And I would imagine during that time some evolution will happen there, to keep it compatible with the rest of the software stack (say, PHP6), and to add new needed components.

However, what I want to be strict about is that any new updates to Ragnaroek or components in it should stay compatible with 8.09.0 release of Ragnaroek. So when somebody goes to LTS they should safely perform upgrades within the LTS branch.

If component changes that break backwards compatibility (with configs, URLs, templates, whatever) will be needed, then those must be done by forking the component, not by breaking it for existing LTS users.

How should we provide upgrades for previous installations? If 10.09 will change database structure for example, how many future releases should support upgrades?

I would imagine we can make some "baseline" releases that you must go through to upgrade your data. As long as they're documented this is fine.

Piotras

/Henri

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Re: [midgard-dev] Announcement: Midgard 1.8.9 "Samshoblo" released

Piotr Pokora — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:33:57 +0000

Piotr Pokora writes:

Hi!

Lodz, August 19th 2008 -- The Midgard Project has released stable, 1.8.9 release version of the Midgard Open Source Content Management System.

Midgard 1.8.9 "Samshoblo" release includes major memory fixes and enchancements. http://www.midgard-project.org/midgard/1.8

Binary packages are built and ready! http://www.midgard-project.org/midcom-permalink-759af20dabbe737403d65e822a30f2bd

Debian users, apt-get may fail: https://www.midgard-project.org/documentation/installation-distros-debian/

Piotras

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Re: [midgard-dev] Announcement: Midgard 1.8.9 "Samshoblo" released

Piotr Pokora — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:29:14 +0000

Hi!

Anyone can double check forum and mailing lists? Especially user's one as I created announcement at user's forum and mail has been sent to dev.

SmallOne?

Piotras

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Re: [midgard-dev] Announcement: Midgard 1.8.9 "Samshoblo" released

Marcin Sołtysiak — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:18:16 +0000

Marcin Sołtysiak writes:

Hi!

Midgard 1.8.9 "Samshoblo" release includes major memory fixes and enchancements.

However I am more than happy hearing about new releases, can I have a humble request?

Sure :)

I am terribly curious what "Samhoblo" is and if it is infectious :)

Here it is: http://www.midgard-project.org/documentation/midgard-release-names/

Got it! May Samshoblo live for ever! :)

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Re: [midgard-dev] Announcement: Midgard 1.8.9 "Samshoblo" released

Piotr Pokora — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:11:44 +0000

Marcin Sołtysiak writes:

Hi!

Midgard 1.8.9 "Samshoblo" release includes major memory fixes and enchancements.

However I am more than happy hearing about new releases, can I have a humble request?

Sure :)

I am terribly curious what "Samhoblo" is and if it is infectious :)

Here it is: http://www.midgard-project.org/documentation/midgard-release-names/

Piotras

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Re: [midgard-dev] Announcement: Midgard 1.8.9 "Samshoblo" released

Marcin Sołtysiak — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:05:57 +0000

Hi,

Midgard 1.8.9 "Samshoblo" release includes major memory fixes and enchancements.

However I am more than happy hearing about new releases, can I have a humble request? Would you pls, explain a codename everytime it is not obpoius. I am terribly curious what "Samhoblo" is and if it is infectious :)

BR Solt

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Announcement: Midgard 1.8.9 "Samshoblo" released

Piotr Pokora — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:05:03 +0000

Lodz, August 19th 2008 -- The Midgard Project has released stable, 1.8.9 release version of the Midgard Open Source Content Management System.

Midgard 1.8.9 "Samshoblo" release includes major memory fixes and enchancements.

Midgard

Midgard is a capable open source content management system for running mid-to-high-end websites. In addition to the built-in content management features, Midgard also provides a highly object-oriented component architecture for building interactive web applications that integrate seamlessly with the website.

Midgard provides unique technology so can be easily integrated with any kind of environment. From web applications ( Midgard CMS with its component framework - MidCOM ) to typical desktop ones ( Midgard Framework ). From personal blog to corporate portals and intranets.

Midgard is also language independent and due to its powerfull architecture is proved as stable, secure and flexible solution implemented in high range of environmental targets:

PHP, Python or Java applications
PHP extension
Python module
Apache module
GTK desktop applications
C++ applications.

Get started with Midgard 1.8 today

Midgard CMS provides a powerful toolkit for web publishing and building interactive web applications. The features include:

Comprehensive authoring tools
Website management
Multilingual support
User management and access control
Web development

Read more about features and learn how to create content.

Planned for next releases

First stable release of 8.09 branch (Ragnaroek): September 2008
First Midgard2 9.03 stable release : March 2009
Automated database MgdSchema management and table initialization
Deprecation of the classic functional Midgard API in favor of MgdSchema and Query Builder
Deprecation of repligard, apache1 and PHP4 support.
Integrated midgard-python and mono package
New, rewritten midgard-data package
PostgreSQL, SQLite and MS SQL support

Midgard resources

User and developers support:

Mailing list
Users' forum
Developers' forum
IRC: #midgard on irc.freenode.net

About Midgard

The Midgard Content Management Framework was initially released in May 1999, and has since gathered a sizable user and developer community. Midgard powers thousands of web sites ranging from simple organizational websites to major portals like maemo.org, New Zealand eGovernment site and Playbill.

Midgard is being developed by an international team of professionals. Midgard's development team includes new media designers, system integrators and content management consultants. Midgard development is being supported by several commercial and governmental entities including the European Union.

Piotr Pokora, Midgard release manager piotrek.pokora(at)gmail.com

Henri Bergius, Midgard spokesman henri.bergius(at)iki.fi

The Midgard Project http://www.midgard-project.org

Announcement: Midgard 1.8.9 "Samshoblo" released

Piotr Pokora — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:02:58 +0000

Lodz, August 19th 2008 -- The Midgard Project has released stable, 1.8.9 release version of the Midgard Open Source Content Management System.

Midgard 1.8.9 "Samshoblo" release includes major memory fixes and enchancements.

Midgard

Midgard is also language independent and due to its powerfull architecture is proved as stable, secure and flexible solution implemented in high range of environmental targets:

PHP, Python or Java applications
PHP extension
Python module
Apache module
GTK desktop applications
C++ applications.

Get started with Midgard 1.8 today

Midgard CMS provides a powerful toolkit for web publishing and building interactive web applications. The features include:

Comprehensive authoring tools
Website management
Multilingual support
User management and access control
Web development

Read more about features and learn how to create content.

Planned for next releases

First stable release of 8.09 branch (Ragnaroek): September 2008
First Midgard2 9.03 stable release : March 2009
Automated database MgdSchema management and table initialization
Deprecation of the classic functional Midgard API in favor of MgdSchema and Query Builder
Deprecation of repligard, apache1 and PHP4 support.
Integrated midgard-python and mono package
New, rewritten midgard-data package
PostgreSQL, SQLite and MS SQL support

Midgard resources

User and developers support:

Mailing list
Users' forum
Developers' forum
IRC: #midgard on irc.freenode.net

About Midgard

Piotr Pokora, Midgard release manager piotrek.pokora(at)gmail.com

Henri Bergius, Midgard spokesman henri.bergius(at)iki.fi

The Midgard Project http://www.midgard-project.org

Re: [midgard-dev] Next Midgard developer meeting in October/November

Henri Bergius — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:43:31 +0000

Just few point about having the meeting in Otaniemi / Finland between 6-9.11

All right, decisions have been made:

http://www.midgard-project.org/community/events/midgard_gathering_2008.html

Tero

/Bergie

Midgard Gathering on Nov 6th - 9th in Espoo, Finland

Henri Bergius — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:42:47 +0000

Hi, all!

Midgard Gathering 2008

November 6th - 9th 2008

Agenda

The gathering is scheduled to happen after Midgard 8.09 "Ragnaroek" release and will focus on discussions and hacking around what will be Midgard 9.03 "Ragnaroek+1".

Unit testing workshop (Thu November 6th)
Ragnaroek+1 feature planning
Midgard and Vala discussion
Neutron and future Midgard user interface
MidCOM 3 hacking
Midgard organization and IPRs: as-is, foundation, ASF, FSFe, ...
Midgard and authentication: Kerberos, OAuth and friends
Midgard-on-mobile: packaging, Jabber replication
...and of course beer and sauna!

The event has been named "Midgard Gathering" instead of the more traditional "Midgard developer meeting", as end-users will be more than welcome to attend. If many end-users turn up we will arrange a Midgard tutorial or workshop for them.

Venue

Otakaari 20, Espoo, Finland

The second Midgard gathering of 2008 will be held in Otaniemi, right next to the Helsinki University of Technology campus. Facilities provided include a meeting area, very fast internet connection and a sauna.

http://www.tky.fi/fi/teekkareille/tilat/saunat/ok20-tilat/

Accommodation

While the event itself is free, attendees are responsible for arranging their own accommodation.

Bunk beds are available at the meeting venue for some, and there are many Midgardians in the area who can provide couchsurfing options.

Attendees

The list so far:

Janne Antola, Nemein
Henri Bergius, Nemein
Joonas Bergius, Nemein
Alexander Bokovoy, IBM
Tero Heikkinen, Rohea
Eero af Heurlin, Nemein
Emilia Hjelm, Nemein
Eero Holmila, Rohea
Heikki Hyppänen, Linnunrata
Edvard Immonen, Tequila
Joonas Kallioinen, Piippunaakka
Oskari Kokko, Nemein
Marcell Lengyel, Nokia
Lauri Manner, Nemein
Antti Partanen, TKY
Kalle Persson, Nemus
Piotr Pokora
Tomi Saarinen, Rohea
Ville Sundell, "Solarius"
Ferenc Szekely

Let me know if you want to be added to the list.

URLs:

http://www.midgard-project.org/community/events/midgard_gathering_2008.html http://www.new.facebook.com/event.php?eid=21874649367&ref=mf

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