Use setuptools for python bindings

1. Alexey Zakhlestine

   Use setuptools for python bindings

   Thu October 15 2009 08:50:08 UTC
   I want to convert configuration/building procedure of python buildings
   to use setuptools.
   
   http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/setuptools
   
   Pro:
   * This will be a native build-solution (similiar to phpize being
   native for php)
   * It has standard testing-target http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/setuptools#test-build-package-and-run-a-unittest-suite
   
   Contra:
   * I don't know any
   
   Any objections?
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2. Piotr Pokora

   Re: [midgard-dev] Use setuptools for python bindings

   Thu October 15 2009 09:15:05 UTC
   Alexey Zakhlestin pisze:
   
   Hi!
   
   > I want to convert configuration/building procedure of python buildings
   > to use setuptools.
   >
   > http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/setuptools
   >
   > Pro:
   > * This will be a native build-solution (similiar to phpize being
   > native for php)
   
   Why it's better than configure; make; make install triple?
   Many users/developers find phpize annoying tool (becaue it's native per
   language and not standard one).
   
   > * It has standard testing-target http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/setuptools#test-build-package-and-run-a-unittest-suite
   >
   > Contra:
   > * I don't know any
   >
   > Any objections?
   
   Does it require special downloads/extensions?
   I have automatic builds in my mind.
   
   Piotras
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3. Alexey Zakhlestine

   Re: [midgard-dev] Use setuptools for python bindings

   Thu October 15 2009 09:30:14 UTC
   On 15.10.2009, at 13:14, Piotr Pokora wrote:
   
   > Alexey Zakhlestin pisze:
   >
   > Hi!
   >
   >> I want to convert configuration/building procedure of python
   >> buildings
   >> to use setuptools.
   >>
   >> http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/setuptools
   >>
   >> Pro:
   >> * This will be a native build-solution (similiar to phpize being
   >> native for php)
   >
   > Why it's better than configure; make; make install triple?
   > Many users/developers find phpize annoying tool (becaue it's native
   > per
   > language and not standard one).
   
   because it is easy to configure and is much more powerful (takes care
   of dependencies, allows to build egg-packages, etc.)
   
   >
   >> * It has standard testing-target http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/setuptools#test-build-package-and-run-a-unittest-suite
   >>
   >> Contra:
   >> * I don't know any
   >>
   >> Any objections?
   >
   > Does it require special downloads/extensions?
   > I have automatic builds in my mind.
   
   here's quote from the site above:
   
   "Your users don't need to install or even know about setuptools in
   order to use them, and you don't have to include the entire setuptools
   package in your distributions. By including just a single bootstrap
   module (an 8K .py file), your package will automatically download and
   install setuptools if the user is building your package from source
   and doesn't have a suitable version already installed."
   
   Should perfectly suitable for automatic builds
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4. Piotr Pokora

   Re: [midgard-dev] Use setuptools for python bindings

   Thu October 15 2009 09:30:25 UTC
   Alexey Zakhlestin pisze:
   
   Hi!
   
   > "Your users don't need to install or even know about setuptools in
   > order to use them, and you don't have to include the entire setuptools
   > package in your distributions. By including just a single bootstrap
   > module (an 8K .py file), your package will automatically download and
   > install setuptools if the user is building your package from source
   > and doesn't have a suitable version already installed."
   >
   > Should perfectly suitable for automatic builds
   
   Sounds good. Let's try this one then :)
   
   Piotras
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5. Alexey Zakhlestine

   Re: [midgard-dev] Use setuptools for python bindings

   Thu October 15 2009 14:55:13 UTC
   On 15.10.2009, at 13:27, Piotr Pokora wrote:
   
   > Alexey Zakhlestin pisze:
   >
   > Hi!
   >
   >> "Your users don't need to install or even know about setuptools in
   >> order to use them, and you don't have to include the entire
   >> setuptools
   >> package in your distributions. By including just a single bootstrap
   >> module (an 8K .py file), your package will automatically download and
   >> install setuptools if the user is building your package from source
   >> and doesn't have a suitable version already installed."
   >>
   >> Should perfectly suitable for automatic builds
   >
   > Sounds good. Let's try this one then :)
   
   Ok. It is done
   Works fine for me. More people are encouraged to test :)
   
   TODO:
   1) egg-package is currently versioned 0.1.
   We either need to use some static version there (and update it) or get
   version dynamically from somewhere else.
   Do we want to have the the same version as core there? then we can
   parse it out of some header-file.
   
   2) we need to convert tests to python's standard format and enable
   them in setup.py
   Volunteers are welcome. Tero? :)
   I propose to use the same model of testing as in php extension (create
   clean sqlite-database before running tests)
   
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6. Piotr Pokora

   Re: [midgard-dev] Use setuptools for python bindings

   Thu October 15 2009 15:15:07 UTC
   Alexey Zakhlestin pisze:
   
   Hi!
   
   >>> Should perfectly suitable for automatic builds
   >> Sounds good. Let's try this one then :)
   >
   > Ok. It is done
   > Works fine for me. More people are encouraged to test :)
   
   python setup.py install
   running install
   Checking .pth file support in /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/
   error: can't create or remove files in install directory
   
   The following error occurred while trying to add or remove files in the
   installation directory:
   
   [Errno 13] Permission denied:
   '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/test-easy-install-6190.pth'
   
   The installation directory you specified (via --install-dir, --prefix, or
   the distutils default setting) was:
   
   /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/
   
   
   > TODO:
   > 1) egg-package is currently versioned 0.1.
   > We either need to use some static version there (and update it) or get
   > version dynamically from somewhere else.
   > Do we want to have the the same version as core there? then we can
   > parse it out of some header-file.
   
   If I can still use make dist to build stuff, then I can use
   configure.ac. If not, then it must have proper release version (release
   one).
   
   Piotras
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7. Alexey Zakhlestine

   Re: [midgard-dev] Use setuptools for python bindings

   Thu October 15 2009 15:20:05 UTC
   On 15.10.2009, at 19:11, Piotr Pokora wrote:
   
   > Alexey Zakhlestin pisze:
   >
   > Hi!
   >
   >>>> Should perfectly suitable for automatic builds
   >>> Sounds good. Let's try this one then :)
   >>
   >> Ok. It is done
   >> Works fine for me. More people are encouraged to test :)
   >
   > python setup.py install
   > running install
   > Checking .pth file support in /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/
   > error: can't create or remove files in install directory
   
   well, obviously you don't have enough rights. are you root? ;)
   
   >> TODO:
   >> 1) egg-package is currently versioned 0.1.
   >> We either need to use some static version there (and update it) or
   >> get
   >> version dynamically from somewhere else.
   >> Do we want to have the the same version as core there? then we can
   >> parse it out of some header-file.
   >
   > If I can still use make dist to build stuff, then I can use
   > configure.ac. If not, then it must have proper release version
   > (release
   > one).
   
   ok. will figure something out.
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8. Piotr Pokora

   Re: [midgard-dev] Use setuptools for python bindings

   Thu October 15 2009 16:05:06 UTC
   Alexey Zakhlestin pisze:
   
   Hi!
   
   >> Checking .pth file support in /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/
   >> error: can't create or remove files in install directory
   >
   > well, obviously you don't have enough rights. are you root? ;)
   
   Ah :) I focused on this /usr/local part which seemed wrong to me.
   Now works, thanks :)
   
   >> If I can still use make dist to build stuff, then I can use
   >> configure.ac. If not, then it must have proper release version
   >> (release
   >> one).
   >
   > ok. will figure something out.
   
   Point is. If this doesn't create proper tarball, I do not need this.
   Well... I do not want to use it then. So in such case version number is
   not important as `make dist` uses value found in configure.ac.
   
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9. Piotr Pokora

   Re: [midgard-dev] Use setuptools for python bindings

   Thu October 15 2009 16:20:06 UTC
   Alexey Zakhlestin pisze:
   
   Hi again!
   
   >> If I can still use make dist to build stuff, then I can use
   >> configure.ac. If not, then it must have proper release version
   >> (release
   >> one).
   >
   > ok. will figure something out.
   
   Whatever you do, make sure:
   
   * makedist creates proper tarballs with proper version
   * debian.rules and spec files for rpms invoke correct tools
   
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10. Alexey Zakhlestine

    Re: [midgard-dev] Use setuptools for python bindings

    Thu October 15 2009 16:25:08 UTC
    On 15.10.2009, at 20:04, Piotr Pokora wrote:
    
    > Point is. If this doesn't create proper tarball, I do not need this.
    > Well... I do not want to use it then. So in such case version number
    > is
    > not important as `make dist` uses value found in configure.ac.
    
    following command creates bzipped and gzipped versioned tarballs in
    dist/ folder
    python setup.py sdist --formats gztar,bztar
    
    see "python setup.py sdist --help" for details
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