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            <title>Re: [midgard-dev] Ticket #1693 ma.a.asgard: when creating subtopic the topic is created to root</title>
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            <description>&lt;p&gt;Dnia 2010-03-16, wto o godzinie 23:37 +0200, Arttu Manninen pisze:
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  &lt;p&gt;It is fixed in SVN, but there should be patches released, so that the
  problem is fixed also on production.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now, a concern:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i18n service uses cache for translation files and it is OK unless one
uses flatfile for backend. Flatfile backend uses translation file path
for cache key which is out of sense and cache module is unable to create
cache file thoriwng non crit errors.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;IMHO no use for copying files from one place to another and I tend to
wrap it with checking cache backend.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;OTOH, sanitizing cache filenames would also do the job. So what is the
best way?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-- 
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            <author>Marcin Sołtysiak</author>
            <pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: [midgard-dev] Ticket #1693 ma.a.asgard: when creating subtopic the topic is created to root</title>
            <link>http://www.midgard-project.org/discussion/developer-forum/read/4747a518314711dfb139b5e127b0e0a1e0a1/</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;It is fixed in SVN, but there should be patches released, so that the
problem is fixed also on production.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On 16.3.2010 23.23, Marcin Sołtysiak wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Is this still a case? I couldn't reproduce on my svn copy&lt;/p&gt;
  
  
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            <pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Ticket #1693 ma.a.asgard: when creating subtopic the topic is created to root</title>
            <link>http://www.midgard-project.org/discussion/developer-forum/read/17f9f38c314311df9e0dd15f3ff349c749c7/</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;Is this still a case? I couldn't reproduce on my svn copy&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-- 
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            <author>Marcin Sołtysiak</author>
            <pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: [midgard-dev] Midgard Gatherings in Poland on 9.-11.4.2010.</title>
            <link>http://www.midgard-project.org/discussion/developer-forum/read/b15c1b7e314111df85c1df3246e9f32bf32b/</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;The dates are messed up because of the GMT datetime bug. So, everytime someone edits the event, times are shifted 2 hours back.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;//NetBlade&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;----- Alkuperäinen viesti -----
&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Henri Bergius pisze:
  &lt;blockquote&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
  
  &lt;p&gt;Hi!&lt;/p&gt;
  
  &lt;blockquote&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Oskari Kokko &lt;a href=&quot;m&amp;#x61;&amp;#105;&amp;#108;&amp;#x74;&amp;#x6f;:&amp;#x6f;&amp;#115;&amp;#x6b;&amp;#97;&amp;#x72;i&amp;#46;&amp;#107;&amp;#x6f;&amp;#x6b;&amp;#107;&amp;#111;&amp;#x40;&amp;#105;&amp;#x6b;&amp;#x69;&amp;#46;&amp;#x66;&amp;#105;&quot;&gt;&amp;#x6f;&amp;#115;&amp;#x6b;&amp;#97;&amp;#x72;i&amp;#46;&amp;#107;&amp;#x6f;&amp;#x6b;&amp;#107;&amp;#111;&amp;#x40;&amp;#105;&amp;#x6b;&amp;#x69;&amp;#46;&amp;#x66;&amp;#105;&lt;/a&gt; wrote:
    &lt;blockquote&gt;
      &lt;p&gt;The next Midgard Gathering will be held in Łódź, Poland on 9.-11.4.2010.
      &lt;snip&gt;
      Conference room has been reserved for Saturday and Sunday, so basicly
      friday is only for traveling, check in, some small talk and lots of
      beer. Saturday and Sunday will be big days for discussions and at least
      I'm planning to get back home on Monday.&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    
    &lt;p&gt;Just to check, are these the correct dates? m-p.org claims Wed 7th -
    Fri 9th, even though traditionally we're on weekend:
    http://www.midgard-project.org/community/events/midgard_gathering-002/&lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;/blockquote&gt;
  
  &lt;p&gt;I corrected this.
  It's weekend obviously. Fri 9th - Sun 11th.&lt;/p&gt;
  
  &lt;p&gt;Piotras
  
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            <pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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            <link>http://www.midgard-project.org/discussion/developer-forum/read/3356e61c313e11dfa164896a286d688c688c/</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;Henri Bergius pisze:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hi!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Oskari Kokko &lt;a href=&quot;&amp;#109;&amp;#97;&amp;#105;&amp;#108;&amp;#116;&amp;#x6f;:&amp;#111;&amp;#115;&amp;#107;&amp;#x61;&amp;#x72;&amp;#x69;&amp;#46;k&amp;#x6f;&amp;#x6b;&amp;#x6b;&amp;#x6f;&amp;#64;&amp;#105;&amp;#x6b;i&amp;#46;&amp;#102;&amp;#x69;&quot;&gt;&amp;#111;&amp;#115;&amp;#107;&amp;#x61;&amp;#x72;&amp;#x69;&amp;#46;k&amp;#x6f;&amp;#x6b;&amp;#x6b;&amp;#x6f;&amp;#64;&amp;#105;&amp;#x6b;i&amp;#46;&amp;#102;&amp;#x69;&lt;/a&gt; wrote:
  &lt;blockquote&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;The next Midgard Gathering will be held in Łódź, Poland on 9.-11.4.2010.
    &lt;snip&gt;
    Conference room has been reserved for Saturday and Sunday, so basicly
    friday is only for traveling, check in, some small talk and lots of
    beer. Saturday and Sunday will be big days for discussions and at least
    I'm planning to get back home on Monday.&lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
  
  &lt;p&gt;Just to check, are these the correct dates? m-p.org claims Wed 7th -
  Fri 9th, even though traditionally we're on weekend:
  http://www.midgard-project.org/community/events/midgard_gathering-002/&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I corrected this.
It's weekend obviously. Fri 9th - Sun 11th.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Piotras

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            <author>Piotr Pokora</author>
            <pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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            <link>http://www.midgard-project.org/discussion/developer-forum/read/b570899a313a11dfa5ea2b43b627e786e786/</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Oskari Kokko &lt;a href=&quot;&amp;#x6d;&amp;#x61;&amp;#x69;&amp;#108;&amp;#x74;o:&amp;#x6f;&amp;#x73;&amp;#107;&amp;#x61;&amp;#114;&amp;#105;&amp;#46;&amp;#x6b;&amp;#111;&amp;#x6b;&amp;#107;&amp;#111;&amp;#64;&amp;#105;&amp;#107;&amp;#105;&amp;#46;&amp;#x66;&amp;#x69;&quot;&gt;&amp;#x6f;&amp;#x73;&amp;#107;&amp;#x61;&amp;#114;&amp;#105;&amp;#46;&amp;#x6b;&amp;#111;&amp;#x6b;&amp;#107;&amp;#111;&amp;#64;&amp;#105;&amp;#107;&amp;#105;&amp;#46;&amp;#x66;&amp;#x69;&lt;/a&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;The next Midgard Gathering will be held in Łódź, Poland on 9.-11.4.2010.
  &lt;snip&gt;
  Conference room has been reserved for Saturday and Sunday, so basicly
  friday is only for traveling, check in, some small talk and lots of
  beer. Saturday and Sunday will be big days for discussions and at least
  I'm planning to get back home on Monday.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just to check, are these the correct dates? m-p.org claims Wed 7th -
Fri 9th, even though traditionally we're on weekend:
http://www.midgard-project.org/community/events/midgard_gathering-002/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The weekend would be better for me as I may be continuing to the Linux
Collaboration Summit afterwards.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-- 
Henri Bergius
Motorcycle Adventures and Free Software
http://bergie.iki.fi/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Skype: henribergius
Jabber: henri.bergius@gmail.com
Microblog: http://www.qaiku.com/home/bergie/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My Royal Enfield Bullet 500 is for sale, see http://www.nettimoto.com/844397

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            <pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description>&lt;p&gt;Dnia 2010-03-16, wto o godzinie 18:39 +0100, Piotr Pokora pisze:
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  &lt;p&gt;Hi!&lt;/p&gt;
  
  &lt;p&gt;I managed to include latest libgda 4.0.8 in debian unstable.
  Which also means it'll be included in next stable Debian release.
  ( I think it'll migrate to testing in a week ).
  We must wait a bit before it can be included in Ubuntu Lucid:
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgda4/+bug/537379&lt;/p&gt;
  
  &lt;p&gt;To be prepared for worse scenario, I prepared plan B - build own libgda4
  packages @OBS. Also this plan B will help us to use Ratatoskr before
  Ubuntu Lucid is released.&lt;/p&gt;
  
  &lt;p&gt;http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/midgardproject:/unstable/xUbuntu_9.10/&lt;/p&gt;
  
  &lt;p&gt;Question is here: should we still support libgda3?
  I really doubt MidgardQuery can be implemented for libgda3, so I would
  drop libgda3 dependency and focus on libgda4 only.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This way you fork from original libgda and this may bring an issue in
future. Consider including plan B(a) - dropping custom libgda4 in favor
of original one when it gets published in targetted distros.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My 0.03 PLN&lt;/p&gt;

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            <link>http://www.midgard-project.org/discussion/developer-forum/read/a82b306c312311dfb5e3cfc485fa0fb50fb5/</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;Hi!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I managed to include latest libgda 4.0.8 in debian unstable.
Which also means it'll be included in next stable Debian release.
( I think it'll migrate to testing in a week ).
We must wait a bit before it can be included in Ubuntu Lucid:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgda4/+bug/537379&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To be prepared for worse scenario, I prepared plan B - build own libgda4
packages @OBS. Also this plan B will help us to use Ratatoskr before
Ubuntu Lucid is released.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/midgardproject:/unstable/xUbuntu_9.10/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Question is here: should we still support libgda3?
I really doubt MidgardQuery can be implemented for libgda3, so I would
drop libgda3 dependency and focus on libgda4 only.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then, one would be able to install and run Midgard using those distros:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ubuntu 9.10&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ubuntu 10.4&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Debian unstable&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Debian testing&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Maemo 5&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Maybe some recent rpm based distro (FC, Suse).&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think the same applies to PHP 5.3.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Piotras&lt;/p&gt;


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            <pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;p&gt;Piotr Pokora wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Normal mode&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Read only mode&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;/ul&gt;
  
  &lt;p&gt;Latter solution will improve performance &lt;em&gt;a lot&lt;/em&gt;.
  One will be able to update object, but without any single modification,
  which means objects will be updated with exactly the same values which
  has been selected from storage.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;+1 for settable mode, It might even default to read-only mode (since the
wast majority of QB use cases are essentially read-only and for
exceptions one can always instantiate a new full copy of the object as
needed).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;/Rambo&lt;/p&gt;

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            <description>&lt;p&gt;Hi!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;MidgardQuery basic classes are more or less useful, but I found some
issue. Basically, what I want to implement is to keep GDA's data model
as underlying storage for queried objects' properties. It means, every
property of every object will be duplicated only on demand.
(Currently we set up full object whether we need it or not).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Problem is that underlying data model is not &quot;writable&quot;.
What do you think about optional read only mode for selected objects?
This approach will give us two possibilities:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Normal mode
We select all data for all objects, and set all properties.
Later on, one is able to update/delete/whatever object.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Read only mode
We select all data for all objects and initialize only objects.
Property (it there's read property attempt) is taken directly from
underlying resultset.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Latter solution will improve performance &lt;em&gt;a lot&lt;/em&gt;.
One will be able to update object, but without any single modification,
which means objects will be updated with exactly the same values which
has been selected from storage.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Piotras

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